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One of the wealthiest families of Wales

Williams-Wynn of Wynnstay

[image: Sir Watkin Williams Wynn]

Sir Watkin Williams Wynn (1693-1749) - 1740, oil on canvas. 76.2 x 63.2 cm

The Williams-Wynn family of Wynnstay in Denbighshire emerged as one of Wales's wealthiest in the early 18th century, a status they were to retain for over two hundred years.

Several members of the family had an interest in the arts, and Sir Watkin Williams-Wynn (1749-1789), 4th baronet, was to be one of Wales's greatest patrons of the visual arts and music. Much of his collection is now housed at Amgueddfa Cymru.

'The great Sir Watkin'

Sir Watkin Williams-Wynn (1693—1749), 3rd baronet, was the greatest landowner in Wales during the 1730s and 1740s, and a national leader of the Tory party in the House of Commons.

He was the grandson of the politician Sir William Williams (1633/4—1700) who had acquired estates in Denbighshire and Shropshire. However, much of his great wealth was not passed down from his farther, but was generated by to a series of fortunate inheritances from female relations.

In 1719 he inherited the Wynnstay estate in Denbighshire, together with other lands in Caernarfon and Merioneth from his mother's cousin, Sir John Wynn.

In 1715 he had married the younger daughter of Edward Vaughan of Llwydiarth, and by 1725 the death of his wife's parents and older sister had brought him further estates in Montgomery, Denbigh, and Merioneth.

He now owned over 100,000 acres, worth between £15,000 and £20,000 a year, which also gave him great influence over parliamentary elections.

On the death of his wife Ann Vaughan in May 1748, Wynn married his god-daughter Frances Shakerley (1717—1803). Their son, also Sir Watkin Williams-Wynn, and the 4th baronet, was born in April 1749.

Wynn, who was known as 'the great Sir Watkin' and 'the Prince of Wales', was killed in a hunting accident in September 1749.

There are two portraits of 'the great Sir Watkin' in the collections of Amgueddfa Cymru . One of these is the work of Thomas Hudson a fashionable London portraitist who produced polished formal likenesses.

The other is a pastel by William Hoare of Bath, and one of a group of pictures commissioned by Wynn's associate Lord Lichfield.

Wealth and cultural sophistication

[image: Candlestick made in 1734 by the French protestant silversmith Lewis Pantin in the newly fashionable rococo style.]

Candlestick made in 1734 by the French protestant silversmith Lewis Pantin in the newly fashionable rococo style.

Two pieces of silver also reflect the wealth and cultural sophistication of Wynnstay in his time. These are a pair of large candlesticks, and a massive tripod stand for a tea kettle.

The candlesticks were made in London in 1734 by the French protestant silversmith Lewis Pantin, and are chased and cast with flowers, shells and scrolls —in the newly fashionable rococo style. They formed part of a set of four and are listed in an inventory of silver made on Sir Watkin's death.

A small amount of silver purchased by the family in 1720 survives as an extraordinary rarity as only a handful of these pieces of silver furniture have escaped being melted down for reuse.

Article Date: 26 July 2007

6 comments

Charles E. Miller, Jr., BA, MA on 15 August 2012, 00:51

My name is Charles E. Miller, Jr., and I am a great-grandson of Elizabeth Emily Wynns of Bertie County, NC. Her husband was Charles Edward Cowan, my great-grandfather and granduncle of internationally known artist,Ralph Wolfe Cowan. R.W. Cowan is my second cousin onced removed. My Wynns ancestor spelt the family name several ways: Wynne,Wyn,Winn,and Wynns. One of my direct ancestors was name Watkins William Wynns. Tradition has it that we descend from Sir John Wynn of Gwydyr, son of Morris Wynne and stepson of Catherine Tudor of Berain. We would be related to the numberous Sir Watkins that have lived through Jane Wynn and Edward Thelwell. I received this information from the late Sir Owen Watkin Williams Wynn in 1972. I would like to meet the current Baronet, Sir David Watkin Williams Wynn and hius son, Charles Edward Williams Wynn.

Amgueddfa Cymru on 17 May 2012, 11:05

Dear Diana Hodges,
Thank you for your enquiry. We do not hold any primary material on the singer and violinist Thomas Valentine, and he does not appear in Sir Watkin's personal account books (National Library of Wales - NLW) but these cover the 1770s only. Sir Watkin employed personal musicians, principally John Parry (d.1780) and his son David. A letter to his steward of 3 August 1788 states 'when old Parry died I told you that I would not appoint D Parry organist but would keep him until I suited myself better... I have heard of a person who plays the organ, the violin and tenor in the best manner.. I shall hear the person when in London, and shall most likely engage him' (NLW). This may be a reference to Thomas Valentine, who I believe was also organist at St Mary’s Ruabon, Sir Watkin's parish church. There is much archival material on Wynnstay in NLW and in the Denbighshire Record Office.

Graham Oliver - Keeper of Art, Amgueddfa Cymru

Diana Hodges on 13 May 2012, 22:11

In researching my Valentine ancestors, I have discovered that my great great great great grandfather, Thomas Valentine, was organist to Sir Watkin Williams-Wynne. Thomas died in 1800, I believe whilst he was still employed by him. I have seen documents in The Royal Society of Musicians in London concerning Thomas Valentine, violinist, singer and organist, and have further details about Thomas' ancestors who were all musicians in Leicester, but I understand that a lot of documentation concerning Wynnstay was lost in the fire. Is this true, and have you any details on Thomas at all? I should be most grateful to receive any information from you on this matter.
With many thanks,
Diana.

Oliver Fairclough on 4 January 2012, 09:30

Dear Malcolm Harding,

Thank you for your enquiry about the Williams-Wynn family and Llanforda Hall. This was one of the lesser Williams-Wynn houses, and I hold no relevant information about it. You will need to investigate the family’s archive which is extensive and split between the National Library of Wales, Aberystwyth, and the Denbighshire Record Office in Ruthin. Llanforda is just in Shropshire, so there might also be some relevant material in the Shropshire Record Office as well.

Good luck,

Oliver Fairclough - Keeper of Art, Angueddfa Cymru

Malcolm Harding on 18 December 2011, 18:22

I am researching my grandmother, Elizabeth Harding, who I believe was in service with the Watkins William Wynn family at their Llanforda Hall, near Oswestry, around 1927. I believe the hall was blown up and destroyed by the family in 1949. Do you have any information about the hall and any information about who worked there? I believe the Watkins William Wyn family own a large hall near Llangedwyn? Would they have records from Llanforda Hall?
Thanks

Wendy Harwood, email fairfaxharwood@aol.com on 11 September 2011, 19:44

I would be very interested to find out whether the Museum has any knowledge of the whereabouts of a statue (probably a white marble bust) of Sir Watkin Williams Wynn, Bart., probably the 6th Baronet, which was sculpted by Charles Francis Fuller, and displayed at the Royal Academy in 1860. I presume it stood at Wynnstay, Ruabon, or at the family home in St.James Square. I have an 'ideal' bust in white Marble by Charles Francis Fuller, and am trying to trace other busts sculpted by him. Thank you for your help. Please email me if you have any information. ps I am Welsh by descent....My mother's maiden name was Watkins, and my father's surname was Thomas.

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